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Post by mos6502 on Mar 19, 2014 9:29:03 GMT -6
1930 The Improved Ever Ready ("1912") - what we call the Ever Ready "1912" finally coming into common production (see above, regarding "Radio") 1933 ER "E-Bar" - potentially earlier than the Gem offering of the same model? (Last use of "Ever Ready" in the US) 1930s "Star" - supercedes "Ever Ready" in the US (British market continues with "Every Ready") and duplicates "Gem" ("1912") ... perhaps simply becoming the "Junior" 1930s? Gem G-Bar (introduced after the cessation of the Ever Ready trademark in the US)
How's that, folks? It's probably better to separate the British and U.S. timelines since the duplicity of brand names can make things really confusing. The Radio 1912, so far as I know wasn't made by the U.S. factory. I had originally though the Radio 1912 must have been an early 1912 variation, but now that I've seen better photos of them I think they're actually from late in the 1912's life. This is because they have (at least that I've seen) the late brit 1912 blade stops: (left: late, Right: early) The font used on the Radio also looks identical to that used on the British Gem 1912, and I've only ever seen the Gem name on late British 1912s. It would be interesting to know when the British began to make the 1912s, since it seems they didn't produce any razors in England at first. The English branch of ASR started in 1921, but it didn't become Ever Ready Razor Products until a few years later. I think, but do not know, that up until then they were simply importing razors from the U.S. I also doubt that the British ER version of the Heavy Flat Top/G bar appeared any earlier than the U.S. version. When they do show up cased, it's always in one of the post-war styrene cases.
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Post by PJGH on Mar 19, 2014 14:46:43 GMT -6
Hi, mate - Great to see you here! Sage advice. Picking this one apart is tougher than untangling Christmas lights Just tonight, I scored a British Shovel Head travel set (short handle), head cast with Brooklyn and the instruction sheet intact. The sheet said it was "Printed in USA" yet referred to the British-American Safety Razor Co., Ltd. of 3 Woodstock Street, Oxford Street West, London, England. I scanned for Americanisms in the text but only came up with "sterilized", where British English at the time would have spelt this "sterilised". I think that is clear proof that these were imported, and I'm going to guess this curved tooth Shovel Head is a late one towards the end of the '20s. I'm going to say British Made (as opposed to imported) were from around 1930. That said, I reckon so many of these heads (especially the 1912 style) were blanks to be stamped as whatever brand, so a container load of pre-made blanks could easily have been imported, or exported, depending upon your starting point. It's a puzzle ...
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Post by mjclark on Mar 19, 2014 15:46:02 GMT -6
Yes - it seems like a good move to seperate the US and British timelines cos we're nowhere near untangling this yet (even though with every new developement we think we are)! I've just noticed that my ER 1912 Brooklyn has the longer revised frame but with the curved cap!! So this means there are 4 different head variations: 1. Shorter more aggressive frame with curved cap (most Damaskeenes) 2. Shorter more aggressive frame with flat cap (most British 1930s ERs) 3. Revised longer frame with curved cap (my ER 1912 Brooklyn - perhaps they were using up old caps) 4. Revised longer frame with flat cap (most 1920s GEMs) Go figure...
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Post by mjclark on Mar 20, 2014 14:35:53 GMT -6
Ya muy bad - my mistake. Both my British ER 1912 and my ER 1912 Brooklyn do indeed have the old style frame. Thanks for all the info in this thread. I'm going to stop worrying about all the differences in the 1912s now and just enjoy the shaves
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Post by birdlives on Sept 10, 2014 3:39:01 GMT -6
I'm just bumping this again....I've been searching some of this and thought maybe some others would benefit from seeing this again.... I see here that the ER 1924 pat. Applied for is from 1919...very cool.....and that ASR didn't trademark "Ever Ready" til after 1923.... But in 1909 ASR made "The New Ever Ready" which was a front hinged model very similar to the 1924 which is actually a 1919.... I love this thread....its a great dialogue......Very Nice Compilation Paul.....I applaud you....Whoot and douple Whoot to quote someone far wiser than I...;^)
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Post by PJGH on Sept 10, 2014 8:15:08 GMT -6
Cheers! It is no doubt far from accurate, well open to discussion but hopefully forms a decent base to try to piece this timeline together.
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Post by prometeo on Oct 6, 2014 11:50:49 GMT -6
Representing the more important facets of the 1912, 1914, 1924, E/G-Bar & Micromatics spatially:
Thank you for this time scale of makeup on. Very interesting.
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Post by PJGH on Oct 6, 2014 11:54:08 GMT -6
My pleasure ... thank you.
I must visit this again and make sure it is up to date with what I know now ...
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