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Post by mjclark on Sept 13, 2015 13:07:24 GMT -6
After the excellence of the sevette, the logical progression is the ivette, a guardless injector: Somehow this is punchier than the sevette but the narrower blade requires better technique. And of course the shave is phenomenal and possibly even more efficient but perhaps a little harsher than the sevette. I need to get in a few more shaves with the ivette before I even know what I think about it. But if you have a surfeit of injectors, please try this and see how it goes for you!
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Post by PJGH on Sept 13, 2015 14:55:52 GMT -6
Gosh! So, it's a modification to make the injector actually capable of a shave! Sounds good! Shame you didn't work for Schick
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Post by mjclark on Sept 13, 2015 15:57:44 GMT -6
Gosh! So, it's a modification to make the injector actually capable of a shave! Sounds good! Shame you didn't work for Schick There's actually a guardless Schick O clone which is made for veterinary use - I've tried to obtain one a couple of times... so if there are any veterinarians on this forum, please hook me up! And yes Paul, I shave with injectors very rarely but this modification creates something very special.
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Post by ShadowsDad on Sept 13, 2015 17:09:32 GMT -6
I'm not belittling injector users, I just never could find a desire in me for injectors...
I agree with Paul, possibly a useable injector, finally! But I'll pass. The OCMM SEvette works well enough for me.
But there have to be injector users who have injectors worthy of the mod'. Now they can take part in the 'vette experience. Cool!
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Post by birdlives on Sept 13, 2015 21:40:05 GMT -6
Several times I put an injector blade in my Turkish Shavette...Got an excellent shave...but because the blade isn't wide enough to automatically fit at the right angle, so it was a touch harder to load the injector, but once the right angle was fixed it was clear shaving after that...and the thicker blade made it so you could leave more blade exposure without any flex...
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Post by fram773 on Sept 13, 2015 22:01:19 GMT -6
I am not sure I like this *vette trend... Am I really the only one? it seems like before you know it there is going to be tons of deformed razors around.
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Post by ShadowsDad on Sept 13, 2015 23:03:58 GMT -6
I can't write for everyone, only myself.
FWIW, so far I've been very careful to only modify razors that had nothing to lose. For instance the 1912 that I mod'ed had seen much better days and the OCMM that I mod'ed had a missing blade stop making the comb of no value.
But I agree, if someone modifies a fully functioning razor it would bother me. That's why when we were discussing OCMMs to modify that I said I had none that I could modify. OCMMs I have plenty of, just none that were already junk. Think of it as recycling if it helps to understand it. Neither of the razors that I have mod'ed would have been used as they were, now they're getting used.
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Post by spidey9 on Sept 13, 2015 23:54:31 GMT -6
Indeed. When I read about this it seemed like a Clog Pruf would be a good candidate and I scored one on the 'bay for $5.
However, when it arrived I found that it was actually in pretty good shape so now I cannot bring myself to take a dremel tool to it.
--Bob
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Post by mjclark on Sept 14, 2015 0:18:44 GMT -6
I agree that the fact these razors are no longer in production does present problems in terms of preservation (a problem not the case with DEs) and the mod should not be taken lightly. However it's certainly in the spirit of pre-war shaving. Men were doing this to DEs in the 30s and Paul had an early SE which looked like something similar had been attempted. And it does give a phenomenal shave unlike any other, which also gives an insight into razor geometry and teaches excellent technique. This hobby of ours is about shaving and collecting (and discussing!) and obviously this mod won't appeal to the collectors. But from the shaving point of view this is a serious endeavour and a very interesting developement. Perhaps in the interests of SE conservation we should all limit ourselves to one sevette and ivette per collection or, as Brian suggests, only modify already damaged razors. And ask anyone who's tried it, it's an incredible shave! You owe it to yourself to give this a go
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Post by PJGH on Sept 14, 2015 2:48:55 GMT -6
Several times I put an injector blade in my Turkish Shavette...Got an excellent shave...but because the blade isn't wide enough to automatically fit at the right angle, so it was a touch harder to load the injector, but once the right angle was fixed it was clear shaving after that...and the thicker blade made it so you could leave more blade exposure without any flex... I've done this to good effect, too. I think DE blades are too thin and there's some micro-chatter in DEs, which is just outright dangerous in a shavette - using a thicker, more rigid blade makes all the difference.
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Post by birdlives on Sept 14, 2015 4:13:46 GMT -6
I remember some friends and I were chatting about it was ashame we didn't know about a shavette that used SE blades.....Because of the thickness etc.....and hear you go....SEvette! Although I do like to hold my shavette, open like a Str8 and left handed for my left side....so I don't think the SEvette is going to replace my shavette although my ERs 1914, 1924, and Schick E2 could replace everything....But I do believe, the SEvette sounds like a very desireable piece of equipment to have around...
Don't want to derail so (@shadowsdad , I see you are not loving the Injector experience....ha,ha....Have you tried the early E2s that open...I've found mine to rival my ER 1924 for efficientcy...Didn't think I'd see an Injector pull that one off...In fact I did a "Shave-Off" between the E2 and OCMM the other day. One pass, MM on Left, E2 on right...The Right was almost BBS after one pass and the Left took the usual 3 passes...But I ended up after the 2nd pass just doing a clean up pass with the E2 all over and everything was smooth as silk...) Course the OCMM SEvette would have made for a completely different out come I'm sure....
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Post by mjclark on Sept 14, 2015 5:02:44 GMT -6
I think you have hit the nail on the head about angle with injector blades and specifically the ivette - the narrower blade requires more attention to angle than the broader GEM blades.
Schick's brilliant design makes it easy to find the angle when the guard's in place, but guardless in a shavette or ivette the injector blade requires practice, practice, practice!
This has inspired me to pursue the ivette further. It has given a very long lasting, good looking and supremely comfortable super efficient shave.
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Post by ShadowsDad on Sept 14, 2015 7:25:56 GMT -6
My experience with injectors is quite limited BL. My main complaint is the lack of auditory feedback. The shave itself was fine.
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Post by mjclark on Sept 14, 2015 14:55:25 GMT -6
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Post by PJGH on Sept 14, 2015 14:58:53 GMT -6
Ha! How about that! Good spot, Sir. Actually, an injector I would be interested in.
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