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Post by mjclark on Sept 20, 2015 10:04:46 GMT -6
Would someone please walk me through the timeline for British Ever Ready 1912 sets?
There's the clamshells and the bakelite boxes, the metal, plastic and cardboard boxes.
So how does it all fit together?
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Post by PJGH on Sept 20, 2015 10:57:58 GMT -6
Even 'Waits Compendium' merely scratches the surface and that is the most comprehensive guide we have ... less than half of the kit I've got is in Waits. Waits is also very light on the British side of the Ever Ready, Gem & Star side of the market.
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Post by mjclark on Sept 20, 2015 11:24:19 GMT -6
Even 'Waits Compendium' merely scratches the surface and that is the most comprehensive guide we have ... less than half of the kit I've got is in Waits. Waits is also very light on the British side of the Ever Ready, Gem & Star side of the market. Yes Paul - like Flinders-Petrie the pioneering Egyptologist, we must resort to "Sequence Dating" since we have no authoritative sources. Using this method, where objects are placed in a hypothetical chronological order according to their stylistic developement, I'd place: the "cigarette case" sets in the early 30s, the clamshell sets in the late 30s, the bakelite boxes in the 40s the cardboard boxes and the metal boxes in the early 50s and the plastic cases with transparent lids in the late 50s. What do you reckon?
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Post by Petrvs on Sept 20, 2015 11:52:44 GMT -6
Marcus, your timeline makes lot of sense to me. I saw some clamshells including MMOC, so the dating of late 30s fits. And all my newer aluminium handle models of 1912, either came in cardboard or plastic cases with transparent lids, so I think they're correctly placed in the 50s. But let's hear what Paul says.
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Post by PJGH on Sept 20, 2015 11:57:03 GMT -6
Good so far ...
Cigarette cases are 1925 on, 'Sport' for Ever Ready, 1912, 1914 & 1924 ... there are also celluloid versions.
My clamshell 1912s are from the '50s - the red and white cases. Check the thread for a 1949 advert launching these razors. These are a different shape to GEM Micromatic clamshell cases, which are the same shape/style as a number of Streamline cases from the '30s. They're '30s. I think the '50s did a lot of throwback designs.
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Post by mjclark on Sept 20, 2015 12:02:30 GMT -6
Marcus, your timeline makes lot of sense to me. I saw some clamshells including MMOC, so the dating of late 30s fits. And all my newer aluminium handle models of 1912, either came in cardboard or plastic cases with transparent lids, so I think they're correctly placed in the 50s. But let's hear what Paul says. A-ha! Very useful information... ...I'd also place the bakelite boxes in the 40s due to their similarity to Souplex and Gillette sets whose dates are already known. The science of Everreadyology is being born right here. And yes Paul must currently be the world's leading Everreadyologist... ...and yes "retro" designs screw up Sequence Dating - the 50s clamshells (and the reintroduction of a revised Streamline) puts a spanner in the works. But the bright blue etc clamshells with the three bands on the front are surely genuine 30s and are made of a different polymer from the plastic 50s ones.
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Post by PJGH on Sept 20, 2015 12:41:03 GMT -6
It's all in the adverts ...
I don't have a '30s feeling Ever Ready clamshell. I have a couple of GEM clamshells which most definitely feel '30s ... to the touch, but my Ever Ready (blue, red & white) don't feel like '30s. They don't feel "plastic" either, not like the 'Peerless' case.
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Post by mjclark on Sept 20, 2015 13:44:49 GMT -6
It's all in the adverts ... I don't have a '30s feeling Ever Ready clamshell. I have a couple of GEM clamshells which most definitely feel '30s ... to the touch, but my Ever Ready (blue, red & white) don't feel like '30s. They don't feel "plastic" either, not like the 'Peerless' case. Yeah I guess you're right Paul, the adverts are the best documentation we've got. So are we going: Cigarette case Clamshell Bakelite box Clamshell Chrome box Plastic with transparent lid Cardboard?
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