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Post by PJGH on Jan 15, 2016 18:43:12 GMT -6
Guys - Sanity check, please ... Revised comb GEM. Just "GEM" on the back, not "GEM Junior". Is that right? I'm blinking, furrowing my brow and struggling to find another like it. I have a good number of revised comb GEM razors in my collection, but they all say "GEM Junior" on the back. I have a good number that say "GEM" on the back, but they're all original comb. Is this a weird fish I've reeled in?
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Post by mjclark on Jan 15, 2016 18:54:15 GMT -6
Paul, I think this is an instance of GEM's Law which can be briefly stated as: "Every combination of ASR frame, cap, comb and handle that can be imagined has actually been made and, given enough time, will appear on eBay."
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Post by PJGH on Jan 15, 2016 19:07:32 GMT -6
That's a good law, Marcus. The chaps at ASR proper like to mess with us, doing things like making that Ever Ready baseplated Push Button with a GEM handle. Damn silly! I want to see a Clog Pruf comb on a Heavy Flat Top baseplate with a 1912 flip top cap. Oh! Treet No, seriously, one day I will have ALL the combinations ...
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Post by mjclark on Jan 15, 2016 19:32:34 GMT -6
Yes Paul - I know we keep coming back to this, but why is there such a huge variegation in these mass produced razors?
The Gillettes have been thoroughly catalogued (although Canadian production is still obscure) but over here we are finding new variants in the Damaskeene-Micromatic timeline literally every week.
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Post by wchnu on Jan 15, 2016 19:49:54 GMT -6
I think sometimes they just dumped whatever that had left over from this and that and slapped them together.
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Post by spidey9 on Jan 15, 2016 23:06:06 GMT -6
I think that there was a production manager at the factory who was determined not to have any parts left over when a model ended production.
--Bob
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Post by mjclark on Jan 16, 2016 2:19:48 GMT -6
Using up leftover parts explains a lot of this.
But why did they make different comb and frame types for razors still in production like the round and flat combs and different bases for the ER 1924, or the 12-tooth variant for the ER 1914?
Those aren't left over parts, that's a component redesign which would require new engineering but which seems completely superfluous.
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Post by PJGH on Jan 16, 2016 4:28:27 GMT -6
I think we're all on the same page ...
But, why stamp out a revised comb baseplate and just stamp it GEM? Being a new baseplate/comb for the GEM Junior, why just stamp it GEM? Presumably once the die machine was fired up, literally hundred if not thousands of these would have been stamped out ... unless it was a mistake?
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Post by spidey9 on Jan 16, 2016 14:23:02 GMT -6
Some changes, such as going from the pedestal base to a stamped base on the 1924, were likely done to decrease production costs and/or simplify assembly. Others, such as the 12 tooth 1914, will likely remain a mystery to us. --Bob
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Post by ShadowsDad on Jan 16, 2016 15:10:41 GMT -6
Maybe it was a production manager who was just one step out of the looney bin and thought that it would be fun to play with future generations. If that's the case, was he close to insane or quite sane and just having a bit of fun and far before his time.
Frankly, I marvel at what you gents find.
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