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Post by wchnu on Mar 24, 2017 18:08:02 GMT -6
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spidey9
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Post by spidey9 on Mar 25, 2017 1:19:58 GMT -6
That style of case with the shaving man trademark (one of the first uses of this on a razor case), the cutout "ER" (early models had an abstract cutout), and the "Ever-Ready" on the back in a straight type (earlier models were more stylized) all suggest a later model, circa 1912.
--Bob
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Post by wchnu on Mar 25, 2017 2:50:23 GMT -6
That style of case with the shaving man trademark (one of the first uses of this on a razor case), the cutout "ER" (early models had an abstract cutout), and the "Ever-Ready" on the back in a straight type (earlier models were more stylized) all suggest a later model, circa 1912. --Bob That is what I was thinking. I was hoping for older when I bought it but I am not at all disappointed. At least I do not think I am. Thanks Bob.
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Post by PJGH on Mar 25, 2017 3:09:22 GMT -6
1907 design ... also found with a short wooden handle, as per the Gem Junior (Bar) of the day.
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Post by wchnu on Mar 25, 2017 3:17:03 GMT -6
1907 design ... also found with a short wooden handle, as per the Gem Junior (Bar) of the day. Thanks!!!! Which handle do you prefer?
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Post by PJGH on Mar 25, 2017 3:30:14 GMT -6
Let me revise that ... seen as far back as 1904 (patent 749751 1904) with various handles including the short wooden, the studded slim metal and the one you have there. Period advertisements would place this particular model to post-1912 through to about 1914 where the introduction of the 'Little Lather Catcher' took over.
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Post by wchnu on Mar 25, 2017 3:44:24 GMT -6
Let me revise that ... seen as far back as 1904 (patent 749751 1904) with various handles including the short wooden, the studded slim metal and the one you have there. Period advertisements would place this particular model to post-1912 through to about 1914 where the introduction of the 'Little Lather Catcher' took over. So this is one of the last models they made before switching to the 1914?
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Post by PJGH on Mar 25, 2017 3:55:25 GMT -6
I would say so ... The case you have there is one that I've also seen early 1914s in and have one of my own with the same handle (on the 1914) as you have on your '(Larger) Lather Catcher'. Yes, yours does look like one of the last and the hand-over to the 'Little Lather Catcher'. One I have has the wooden handle, dating it as one of the earlier ones (1904-1907). In between the earlier (mine) and later (yours) appears to be the self-same head but on the spiked slim metal handle that we see with the Star hinged lather catchers of the day and that one curious 'Reverse Lather Catcher' (again, c.1907 on). I believe the '(Larger) Lather Catcher' was in fact a Yankee design. Yankee being Jeremiah Reichard, to become Reichard & Schuber (1904), then Ever-Ready (1905). The original patent is 1904 and so, I'd say a Yankee patent. Perhaps one for our patentmeister? riverrun
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Post by wchnu on Mar 25, 2017 4:25:04 GMT -6
I would say so ... The case you have there is one that I've also seen early 1914s in and have one of my own with the same handle (on the 1914) as you have on your '(Larger) Lather Catcher'. Yes, yours does look like one of the last and the hand-over to the 'Little Lather Catcher'. One I have has the wooden handle, dating it as one of the earlier ones (1904-1907). In between the earlier (mine) and later (yours) appears to be the self-same head but on the spiked slim metal handle that we see with the Star hinged lather catchers of the day and that one curious 'Reverse Lather Catcher' (again, c.1907 on). I believe the '(Larger) Lather Catcher' was in fact a Yankee design. Yankee being Jeremiah Reichard, to become Reichard & Schuber (1904), then Ever-Ready (1905). The original patent is 1904 and so, I'd say a Yankee patent. Perhaps one for our patentmeister? riverrunGreat information thank you. I am looking forward to a shave with it.
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riverrun
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Post by riverrun on Mar 25, 2017 8:38:34 GMT -6
I would say so ... The case you have there is one that I've also seen early 1914s in and have one of my own with the same handle (on the 1914) as you have on your '(Larger) Lather Catcher'. Yes, yours does look like one of the last and the hand-over to the 'Little Lather Catcher'. One I have has the wooden handle, dating it as one of the earlier ones (1904-1907). In between the earlier (mine) and later (yours) appears to be the self-same head but on the spiked slim metal handle that we see with the Star hinged lather catchers of the day and that one curious 'Reverse Lather Catcher' (again, c.1907 on). I believe the '(Larger) Lather Catcher' was in fact a Yankee design. Yankee being Jeremiah Reichard, to become Reichard & Schuber (1904), then Ever-Ready (1905). The original patent is 1904 and so, I'd say a Yankee patent. Perhaps one for our patentmeister? riverrun Always happy to add a patent by my '1912 hero' August William Scheuber (If I found the right Scheubers, in the 1880 New York census August is 17 years old, the oldest of six children and a steel engraver. His parents were both born in Germany, his father was a locksmith, August was born in New York, so definitely a US citizen). So, ↪here is the patent - unfortunately I don't own one of these razors... I like to read those patents while holding the razor in my hands. I need to add more patents by August Wm. Scheuber.
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Post by wchnu on Mar 25, 2017 13:02:40 GMT -6
Awesome to see. Thanks again.
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Post by Petrvs on Mar 25, 2017 15:55:50 GMT -6
hey, great info here! Thank you all
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Post by wchnu on Mar 31, 2017 4:34:44 GMT -6
First shave with this one tonight. I was almost cut off at the pass. When I went to load the PAL it would not stay on the stops and was moving around in the head. I have some of the old thick blades and put one of those in. Same problem. I dug out my 1911 gem and compared the two. I noticed the ER had more of an angle to the head. Looks like it was bent sometime in the past. I used a small pair of pliers and very very gently bent it up until it looked right. The results was another great shaving lather catcher in the hutch.
This one feels a lot, if not just like, shaving with the 1911. I am happy with my purchase. Even if I did have to tweek it a bit.
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Post by pj3r on Mar 31, 2017 6:42:45 GMT -6
Nice little guy!
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Post by wchnu on Mar 31, 2017 6:45:58 GMT -6
Very nice after a little work. A keeper no doubt
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