zykris
Lather Catcher
Tuggy against the grave...
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Post by zykris on Jan 23, 2018 19:36:30 GMT -6
Are the brush handles wood? I've had good luck using a steam method to remove old k it's but only with the plastic type handles.
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Post by jayaruh on Jan 23, 2018 20:30:54 GMT -6
Here's one I did last year. It is a Heldtite. It is fun to bring an old brush back to life.
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Post by wchnu on Jan 23, 2018 21:18:53 GMT -6
Here's one I did last year. It is a Heldtite. It is fun to bring an old brush back to life. Beautiful brush!! Love that shape.
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Post by IschiaPP on Jan 24, 2018 8:32:32 GMT -6
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Post by razorhound on Jan 24, 2018 10:44:22 GMT -6
Just assumed it would require some degree of experience and mystical knowledge of brushes that i do not posses to do so without botching it up. What might the steps be to remove the old knot? I assume you just glue the new knot in? I know I could probably google this but for the sake of conversation I will ask here. All I can only tell what I do. Now mind you I have only been doing brushes for a short time. I also have to state that I have hosed up more vintage bruahes then I have successfully finished. First I cut bristles off at the top of the handle. Then I use a drill press to drill out the rest of the knot with a forstner drill bit. You can then make the hole bigger by drilling out some more. This is where I mess up the handles. I do not get the hole centered on the handle. Once you get the hole your required size you can start working on the outside of the handle. When you get ready to set the new knot there are two ways that most use that I am aware of, set the knot using epoxy or set it using silicone. Now each type has pro's & con's. The pro's for epoxy is that it sets quickly and can be used after twenty-four hours. The bond achieved with epoxy is also very strong. It is these two properties that I believe epoxy is the choice of setting a knot in plastic vintage handles. The con's are also that epoxy is a very strong. If you ever want to replace the knot again you will have to drill it out or break the handle away from the knot. The pro's for silicone is that it is more forgiving. Even after 24hrs the knot can be pulled out and adjusted. I like using silicone on wood handles because of the water proof quality you get with silicone. I coat the inside of the hole for the knot with silicone. If you ever want to replace the knot you can remove it by giving it a good twist and the proper amount of torque. Con's for silicone is that it takes a week for it to fully set up. I have had a knot fall out of a handle on me before. I now let my brushes set for a full week before giving them up for re-homing. With all of this my suggestion is to pick up some cheap vintage brushes and try to replace the knot. As always I am not a professional and this has just been my $0.02. Maybe some of the others here that have re-done some brushes can chime in. Thank you for the detailed response Garner. All sounds doable other than I do not have a drill press. I will have to see if any of my acquaintances do locally.
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Post by razorhound on Jan 24, 2018 11:13:50 GMT -6
Are the brush handles wood? I've had good luck using a steam method to remove old k it's but only with the plastic type handles. I don't "think" the handle I am most interested in is. I dont know much about this vintage brush so I will show a few pics and maybe someone can educate me. Oh damn! I meant to reply and instead screwed up and edited this post. I sincerely apologize razorhound.
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Post by IschiaPP on Jan 24, 2018 11:19:45 GMT -6
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Post by razorhound on Jan 24, 2018 12:07:06 GMT -6
Thank you sir. That looks like something I could manage.
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Post by razorhound on Jan 28, 2018 9:20:12 GMT -6
From photos does anybody know any history or who the manufacturer is, and age or if still in production? The handle seems to not be wood but I am not positive.
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Post by wchnu on Jan 28, 2018 16:44:55 GMT -6
From photos does anybody know any history or who the manufacturer is, and age or if still in production? The handle seems to not be wood but I am not positive. There are a lot of those vintage brushes out there. No idea on makers. I can not help other then to say long out of production. ShadowsDad the oops edit is the curse of the mod.... Happens often. Lol.
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Post by razorhound on Jan 28, 2018 19:17:18 GMT -6
Not real savvy on old brushes but I am guessing there is no rehabbing the bristles as far as when they are dry and brittle?
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Post by pisces0 on Jan 28, 2018 20:27:21 GMT -6
Are the brush handles wood? I've had good luck using a steam method to remove old k it's but only with the plastic type handles. I don't "think" the handle I am most interested in is. I dont know much about this vintage brush so I will show a few pics and maybe someone can educate me. View AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentOh damn! I meant to reply and instead screwed up and edited this post. I sincerely apologize razorhound. I just popped an old boar knot out of that EXACT brush. Too coincidental. The handle is hollow plastic, so take care not to crack it. Also, there's a thin plastic plate under the glue plug of the knot. It's haphazardly adhered on and will probably need to be re-glued. Haven't decided on a replacement knot yet. Too many other projects in the hopper.
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Post by twhite on Jan 28, 2018 22:21:02 GMT -6
Not real savvy on old brushes but I am guessing there is no rehabbing the bristles as far as when they are dry and brittle? There is one thing you can try to save an old knot. Soak it really good and the very gently wash with hair shampo. Then add hair conditioner and let it saturate for several minutes. Then rinse and let dry. Check to see how it is. You may want to repeat the conditioner. I was able to save a Boar doing this. When I first got it the hair was brittle. Now it is a usable brush. Post a picture in a minute.
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Post by razorhound on Jan 29, 2018 7:33:59 GMT -6
Not real savvy on old brushes but I am guessing there is no rehabbing the bristles as far as when they are dry and brittle? There is one thing you can try to save an old knot. Soak it really good and the very gently wash with hair shampo. Then add hair conditioner and let it saturate for several minutes. Then rinse and let dry. Check to see how it is. You may want to repeat the conditioner. I was able to save a Boar doing this. When I first got it the hair was brittle. Now it is a usable brush. Post a picture in a minute. Thanks for the information. I think I will give that a try with one of the three and see how it works out. Two of the three shed pretty bad as well and the glue may be shot anyway but worth a try. The brush in the photo's will be a synthetic regardless but I can play with the other two.
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