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Post by blader on Apr 27, 2012 18:34:05 GMT -6
I was wondering why it hurt so bad to shave with an OCMM. At first I figured it was poor technique + an aggressive razor, and I'm sure that was a factor. But I went and watched a MrGuy video (yeah, should have done that first, clearly), and I noticed my razor doesn't look like his...it has no blade stops! This causes it to jut WAY out over the comb. observe. And the blade exposure:
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Post by HoosierTrooper on Apr 27, 2012 19:07:18 GMT -6
Hmmm. It seems like the locking lugs and the bump that goes in hole in the center of the blade should keep the blade in the proper position even without the blade stops.
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Post by blader on Apr 27, 2012 19:47:12 GMT -6
This one doesn't seem to jut out so far, for example:
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Post by blader on Apr 27, 2012 19:47:41 GMT -6
sorry, better link:
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Post by wchnu on Apr 27, 2012 20:13:40 GMT -6
I am on a road trip and do not have a OC with me. When I get home I will have to check a few out. I think i have 5 or 6 of the things.
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Post by RocketMan on Apr 28, 2012 1:48:44 GMT -6
I just checked mine - quite confident it is the same razor as yours - and I have sweet little blade stops for sure. I have never quite stopped to contemplate them before! I can see how they could be rubbed off over time because they are rather small and thin. Considering the heft of the rest of the razor, the blade stops don't really seem quite substantial enough to match.
I never noticed it on this razor - but yeah, there are blade stops for sure. Yours look worn off.
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Post by HoosierTrooper on Apr 28, 2012 5:11:06 GMT -6
I tries to replicate your picture using one of mine with the stops in place, I think the blade position looks pretty similar to yours. ASR called these "self adjusting frames" because the locking lugs and bump that goes in the center of the blade is supposed to consistently place the blade in the same position each time it's closed. I've always thought the blade stops on a lot of razors was there more to protect you from the corners of the blade more than limit the forward movement of the blade. Wonder if that's what was causing you the discomfort?
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Post by johna2231 on Apr 28, 2012 13:05:19 GMT -6
MAYBE POSSUM'S OCMM IS MISSING THE BLADE STOPS TOO!!?? LOL!
John
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Post by ShadowsDad on Apr 28, 2012 15:15:23 GMT -6
Maybe the corners are getting hung up as it comes out of the pouch?
John, you crack me up!
FWIW a certain absolutely incredibly aggressive razor that I can't discuss on this forum has no blade stops on the corners and it's unbelieveably easy to slice into the corner of the nose if one isn't careful. Don't even ask how I know that one can get a 1/16" deep gash there. Amazingly, nothing is felt when it happens, then the blood starts flowing. So I've been told, maybe. (Hey, it's my story!)
What I'm getting at is that the corner blade stops may at serve a dual function if not only to protect skin from the corners of the blade.
OK, so if I want a more aggressive MM all I need to do is grind those suckers off, huh? Hmmmm. I have at least one that I can experiment on and lose absolutely nothing.
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Post by johna2231 on Apr 29, 2012 10:02:56 GMT -6
Glad you enjoyed my back-woods possum humor.
I had an OCMM like that too. NO plating, looks like crap, and is destined to live in my camper for head shaves in the wilderness....grin. Well, the wilderness is actually right across the fire road. A stone's throw away. Sure wish that snow would melt in the mountains... grumble.
John
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Post by RocketMan on Apr 29, 2012 18:26:49 GMT -6
Glad you enjoyed my back-woods possum humor. John Q. How many rednecks does it take to eat a 'possum?
A. Two. One to eat the possum, and one to watch out for traffic. ;D
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Post by MrGuy on Apr 29, 2012 22:24:05 GMT -6
MAYBE POSSUM'S OCMM IS MISSING THE BLADE STOPS TOO!!?? LOL! John That's got to be it! ;D
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Post by blobby on Apr 30, 2012 2:58:41 GMT -6
Hmmm. It seems like the locking lugs and the bump that goes in hole in the center of the blade should keep the blade in the proper position even without the blade stops. I checked the configuration of my CP and Bullet tip which look identical to the OC and the centre lug/bump certainly doesn't tightly lock the blade in on those two. There's enough play to turn the blade from one that'll hardly shave at all to one that'll scrape a quarter of an inch of skin. Not sure what you mean by the locking lugs. If you mean the two little bumps, I believe they're there to lift the blade off the base plate a little to give the top something to bite in to when you tighten it down. Can't imagine that the OC would be any different. Can't verify this as even with working blade stops my OC got passed on (or should I say Possumed on) very quickly. Edit: Just noticed the locking lugs inside the top plate. And yes, as you close the top down it pushes the blade up against the stops and I assume the back edge of the centre bump. They're little marvels of engineering these MMs. Possum doesn't really know what he's missing out on. So, I would have to agree (why question HT anyhow!) that the blade stops also serve as blade corner covers and it's probably that which has caused the blood fest. In light of this I guess you could file the corners of the blade down or find a new OC. They're pretty easy to get hold of.
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Post by HoosierTrooper on Apr 30, 2012 4:31:50 GMT -6
Hey, question away, that's what this place is all about. You're right, the Micromatic is quite an engineering marvel, and, they beat Gillette by several years with the first TTO!
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Post by blobby on Apr 30, 2012 22:03:26 GMT -6
Well at least I managed to discover exactly how they work. Never looked too closely at them before. Just thought the TTO was an alternative to the snap shut mechanism of the 1912. That you can actually just plonk the blade in and it will automatically lock it in the correct position is not something I'd noticed before. The Gillette TTOs are pretty nifty too. Particularly the adjustable lock down ones.
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