Flintstone
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Post by Flintstone on Nov 27, 2018 15:00:19 GMT -6
For feedback, I used to use an alum block, but now it's only called in for heavy weepers or light nicks. When I first started wet-shaving in the unmentionable arena, I had so many weepers I look like I had contracted the measles....seriously. So the alum block was in constant use. My SE shaves have been surprisingly weeper-free, but it took some work on my technique to keep from getting some pretty bad irritation around my Adam's apple and right jawline. Ultimately, the cold water doesn't really give me any shave feedback, but fortunately (or rather unfortunately) my post-shave irritation shows itself pretty visually. For me the cold water rinse does seem to tamp down the initial severity of any burn/irritation, and usually shortens the time it lasts. Could be a psychosomatic kind of thing, but whether it's real or imagined, the results seem to be there for me...if that makes any sense. As for A/S, I haven't really tried any yet. My wife isn't a fan of colognes or heavy scents, so my post-shave routine has been a cold water rinse, dry off, apply witch hazel, let it dry and then finish with a face moisturizer (usually a Burt's Bees product). I did recently order some Fine's aftershave samples -- I figure I can try them out and see if the scents are a hit or a miss with the missus. Just take it from me on this one. DO NOT use a menthol soap, and Osage Rub in the same shave!!! Dont ask me how I know, just take it from me! I won't ask, but it sounds vaguely like the voice of experience...advice taken and will be heeded.
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Post by wchnu on Nov 30, 2018 13:39:57 GMT -6
'65, PM me your address. Trust me. Do itttttt.
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ShadowsDad
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Post by ShadowsDad on Nov 30, 2018 15:21:05 GMT -6
It's just waiting for me to put it together and send it.
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Post by wchnu on Nov 30, 2018 16:51:29 GMT -6
It's just waiting for me to put it together and send it. Your just..... Awesomelicious good Sir!
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Flintstone
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Post by Flintstone on Dec 2, 2018 12:57:26 GMT -6
'65, PM me your address. Trust me. Do itttttt. Oh yeah -- I did not hesitate!!!
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Post by ordinaryshaver on Dec 11, 2018 20:39:48 GMT -6
To continue this line of thought, I posted across the street kind of the same thing, but since we are smarter and use better razors and blades, I figured I'd espouse everyone here. I believe that even using filtered and bottled water makes a difference in lathering. Soft water vs hard water, we already know about that, but I'm saying like brought to a boil, and filtered. Throut either a pitcher type filter or a sink mounted. I am testing a hypothesis and will report back soon with my findings.
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Post by linuxguile on Dec 13, 2018 14:57:39 GMT -6
If you ever want to experience a true juxtaposition of sensations try a heavily mentholated soap (aka Stirling Glacial) in a hot scuttle.
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Post by Flintstone on Dec 13, 2018 18:04:27 GMT -6
After a brief discussion with 9nein9 on the merits/challenges of cold water over in the SOTD earlier, I had a memory flash of one of my favorite movies: The Dirty Dozen. We had it on VHS when I was a kid, and I watched and re-watched that movie a lot with my Dad. As those who have seen the movie and perhaps remember, there is a scene in there where the men have a melt-down over shaving with cold water (and bathing in cold water). They refuse to do it, and subsequently lose access to their shaving supplies and their soap. This ultimately earns them the moniker "The Dirty Dozen". I remember asking my Dad (who was in the military at the time and stayed in for over 20 years), what the big deal was about shaving in cold water. I believe his answer was "shaving in cold water sucks". I was a few years from shaving, so that was a sufficient answer for me. Anyway, I'm not sure about the copyright stuff with YouTube, and I don't want to get the forum in trouble, but if you venture over to Youtube and search for: dirty dozen shaving -- you'll see a video clip of 2 minutes and 22 seconds of the men articulating their feelings on shaving with cold water.
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Post by 9nein9 on Dec 13, 2018 19:45:01 GMT -6
After a brief discussion with 9nein9 on the merits/challenges of cold water over in the SOTD earlier, I had a memory flash of one of my favorite movies: The Dirty Dozen. We had it on VHS when I was a kid, and I watched and re-watched that movie a lot with my Dad. As those who have seen the movie and perhaps remember, there is a scene in there where the men have a melt-down over shaving with cold water (and bathing in cold water). They refuse to do it, and subsequently lose access to their shaving supplies and their soap. This ultimately earns them the moniker "The Dirty Dozen". I remember asking my Dad (who was in the military at the time and stayed in for over 20 years), what the big deal was about shaving in cold water. I believe his answer was "shaving in cold water sucks". I was a few years from shaving, so that was a sufficient answer for me. Anyway, I'm not sure about the copyright stuff with YouTube, and I don't want to get the forum in trouble, but if you venture over to Youtube and search for: dirty dozen shaving -- you'll see a video clip of 2 minutes and 22 seconds of the men articulating their feelings on shaving with cold water. That's a great piece of history there . I wouldn't actually say it sucked when I tried it, not as comfortable as warm water but I would try it again. I'd shave with ice cold water before I'd ever use the goo or the plastic unmentionable garbage (Fuzzy was here.)(can I say that on here?) ( nope)ever again. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by ordinaryshaver on Dec 13, 2018 20:04:04 GMT -6
After a brief discussion with 9nein9 on the merits/challenges of cold water over in the SOTD earlier, I had a memory flash of one of my favorite movies: The Dirty Dozen. We had it on VHS when I was a kid, and I watched and re-watched that movie a lot with my Dad. As those who have seen the movie and perhaps remember, there is a scene in there where the men have a melt-down over shaving with cold water (and bathing in cold water). They refuse to do it, and subsequently lose access to their shaving supplies and their soap. This ultimately earns them the moniker "The Dirty Dozen". I remember asking my Dad (who was in the military at the time and stayed in for over 20 years), what the big deal was about shaving in cold water. I believe his answer was "shaving in cold water sucks". I was a few years from shaving, so that was a sufficient answer for me. Anyway, I'm not sure about the copyright stuff with YouTube, and I don't want to get the forum in trouble, but if you venture over to Youtube and search for: dirty dozen shaving -- you'll see a video clip of 2 minutes and 22 seconds of the men articulating their feelings on shaving with cold water. That's a great piece of history there . I wouldn't actually say it sucked when I tried it, not as comfortable as warm water but I would try it again. I'd shave with ice cold water before I'd ever use the goo or the disposable cartridge (can I say that on here?) ever again. Just my 2 cents. That's the gospel truth right there.
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Post by wchnu on Dec 13, 2018 22:17:41 GMT -6
After a brief discussion with 9nein9 on the merits/challenges of cold water over in the SOTD earlier, I had a memory flash of one of my favorite movies: The Dirty Dozen. We had it on VHS when I was a kid, and I watched and re-watched that movie a lot with my Dad. As those who have seen the movie and perhaps remember, there is a scene in there where the men have a melt-down over shaving with cold water (and bathing in cold water). They refuse to do it, and subsequently lose access to their shaving supplies and their soap. This ultimately earns them the moniker "The Dirty Dozen". I remember asking my Dad (who was in the military at the time and stayed in for over 20 years), what the big deal was about shaving in cold water. I believe his answer was "shaving in cold water sucks". I was a few years from shaving, so that was a sufficient answer for me. Anyway, I'm not sure about the copyright stuff with YouTube, and I don't want to get the forum in trouble, but if you venture over to Youtube and search for: dirty dozen shaving -- you'll see a video clip of 2 minutes and 22 seconds of the men articulating their feelings on shaving with cold water. That's a great piece of history there . I wouldn't actually say it sucked when I tried it, not as comfortable as warm water but I would try it again. I'd shave with ice cold water before I'd ever use the goo or the plastic unmentionable garbage (Fuzzy was here.)(can I say that on here?) ( nope)ever again. Just my 2 cents. Fixed that post for you.....Eh.
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Post by ordinaryshaver on Dec 16, 2018 11:02:22 GMT -6
I did something similar to Fred, I used a cold water for my end to the shave before, the cologne and after shave. It was good. Im not sure if I would do it for the entire shave, but for the final rinse no issues.
I do notice that it makes my skin feel a bit better when I put the aftershave on after the cold water, so maybe there is something to it after all!
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Post by kfralin on Jan 11, 2019 10:10:11 GMT -6
Hot or warm water during the prep phase is useful as a saturated whisker is softer and thus easier to cut than a dry whisker. I am certain that both moisture and head aid in this process. This is why barbers use a hot towel, to soften the beard. A typical dry and unprepped whisker has about the same strength as a similar gauge cooper wire. Now as far as the actual shave itself, I see little difference in hot versus cold water. I tend to prefer warmer water as I just like the feel on my skin. As an aside, I have seen an old barbers manuals that lather should sit on the face for several minutes prior to shaving. The idea is that the lather helps retain both heat and moisture and thus continues to soften the beard, allowing for easier and cleaner removal of the beard.
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Post by jmudrick on Jan 11, 2019 13:04:50 GMT -6
Cool water is better for the skin, hot more quickly softens hairs. I generally use cool to warm as a decent balance.
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Post by jayaruh on Jan 11, 2019 17:56:53 GMT -6
I have been cold water shaving for years now. I do it year 'round. My pre-shave routine is to just rinse my face with cold water from the tap. I wet my brush (badger, boar, or synthetic) in cold water and load it with soap. I lather my face right after loading the brush. As I shave, I rinse the razor with cold water. I finish with a cold water rinse. I do, however, use hot water to clean my brush and my razor.
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