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Post by wchnu on Nov 28, 2019 10:07:13 GMT -6
So let's hear thoughts from people of TOST. What do you think about the newer razors and why.
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Post by IschiaPP on Nov 28, 2019 10:49:26 GMT -6
I like them. Especially because they offer me some advantages: • longer shapes and comfort • more efficient materials • modern blades
In this sense, my champion is the Colonial Razors "The General V1 Aluminum" with the Artist Club-style Kai "ProTouch" blades.
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Post by ordinaryshaver on Nov 28, 2019 11:02:35 GMT -6
To me, I'm apathetic either way. A razor is a razor. I can shave with em all. To me whatever floats your boat.
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TobyC
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Post by TobyC on Nov 28, 2019 12:04:43 GMT -6
I can shave with anything, but I like vintage, new stuff has no character, no history, and no pizzazz.
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Post by wchnu on Nov 28, 2019 12:05:43 GMT -6
I am not a fan as most know. I get great shaves from the ones I have tried. I just see no reason to reinvent the wheel. Some call it higher quality... well I have razors well over 100 years old that work like new. What more can you ask for??
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TobyC
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Post by TobyC on Nov 28, 2019 12:09:00 GMT -6
I like them. Especially because they offer me some advantages: • longer shapes and comfort • more efficient materials • modern blades In this sense, my champion is the Colonial Razors "The General V1 Aluminum" with the Artist Club-style Kai "ProTouch" blades. (1) longer shapes and comfort (2) more efficient materials I don't understand these two.
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TobyC
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Post by TobyC on Nov 28, 2019 12:19:19 GMT -6
I am not a fan as most know. I get great shaves from the ones I have tried. I just see no reason to reinvent the wheel. Some call it higher quality... well I have razors well over 100 years old that work like new. What more can you ask for?? "Higher quality" is propaganda spread by the makers and vendors to sell the product. Same as "new and improved". Truth is, they can't make 'em the way they used to, most new ones are just three pieces of some roughly machined metal that may or may not hold the blade all that well. No style, no class, just cheap machined junk that looks like some kid in shop class made it on a bad day. No moving parts because they don't know how, and if they did it would cost four digits. Bah! Give me vintage or go away.
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Post by wchnu on Nov 28, 2019 12:24:03 GMT -6
I am not a fan as most know. I get great shaves from the ones I have tried. I just see no reason to reinvent the wheel. Some call it higher quality... well I have razors well over 100 years old that work like new. What more can you ask for?? "Higher quality" is propaganda spread by the makers and vendors to sell the product. Same as "new and improved". Truth is, they can't make 'em the way they used to, most new ones are just three pieces of some roughly machined metal that may or may not hold the blade all that well. No style, no class, just cheap machined junk that looks like some kid in shop class made it on a bad day. No moving parts because they don't know how, and if they did it would cost four digits. Bah! Give me vintage or go away. Amen brother..🤠
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rayr
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Post by rayr on Nov 28, 2019 12:33:03 GMT -6
Use what you like, whatever floats your boat. I like Vintage better, more style, more character and I like brass construction.
If I want a new looking razor, I'll take a vintage and do a restoration and make it look like new.
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Post by IschiaPP on Nov 28, 2019 15:02:49 GMT -6
TobyC Most of the classic SE razors are short handled, with big head ... because of the blade. New ones has longer handles, with more comfort. Vintage mostly has made of brass. New materials (aluminium, 3D printed resin) are more efficient. Can be lighter, with the same strenght. Old school heavy metals can not provide good balance with a nice elonged shape. Just finished a test on the V2 AISI 316L of my champion. theoriginalsafety2.com/post/74096/threadI had to try different handles to lay down weight to gain balance. And the problem is not the project, but the choosen material. Unefficient !!!
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TobyC
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Post by TobyC on Nov 28, 2019 15:31:09 GMT -6
TobyC Most of the classic SE razors are short handled, with big head ... because of the blade. New ones has longer handles, with more comfort. Vintage mostly has made of brass. New materials (aluminium, 3D printed resin) are more efficient. Can be lighter, with the same strenght. Old school heavy metals can not provide good balance with a nice elonged shape. Just finished a test on the V2 AISI 316L of my champion. theoriginalsafety2.com/post/74096/threadI had to try different handles to lay down weight to gain balance. And the problem is not the project, but the choosen material. Unefficient !!! We will have to disagree, I think the "short" handles are perfect, and brass is the absolute standard for a quality razor anywhere in the world. I can't tolerate a handle much over three inches, and for most SE razors I think the "sweet spot for handle length is in the 2 3/4"~2 7/8" range. I also prefer to have the original handle if possible. Many successful shaves have been had with many of those razors over the past century, I see no need to start swapping parts on them now. That would be like putting big buck teeth on the Mona Lisa!
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Post by wchnu on Nov 28, 2019 15:56:51 GMT -6
TobyC Most of the classic SE razors are short handled, with big head ... because of the blade. New ones has longer handles, with more comfort. Vintage mostly has made of brass. New materials (aluminium, 3D printed resin) are more efficient. Can be lighter, with the same strenght. Old school heavy metals can not provide good balance with a nice elonged shape. Just finished a test on the V2 AISI 316L of my champion. theoriginalsafety2.com/post/74096/threadI had to try different handles to lay down weight to gain balance. And the problem is not the project, but the choosen material. Unefficient !!! We will have to disagree, I think the "short" handles are perfect, and brass is the absolute standard for a quality razor anywhere in the world. I can't tolerate a handle much over three inches, and for most SE razors I think the "sweet spot for handle length is in the 2 3/4"~2 7/8" range. I also prefer to have the original handle if possible. Many successful shaves have been had with many of those razors over the past century, I see no need to start swapping parts on them now. That would be like putting big buck teeth on the Mona Lisa! You have met cousin Mona??? Handle length is really not a issue to me. It is such a small difference.
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rayr
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Post by rayr on Nov 28, 2019 16:10:57 GMT -6
TobyC Most of the classic SE razors are short handled, with big head ... because of the blade. New ones has longer handles, with more comfort. Vintage mostly has made of brass. New materials (aluminium, 3D printed resin) are more efficient. Can be lighter, with the same strenght. Old school heavy metals can not provide good balance with a nice elonged shape. Just finished a test on the V2 AISI 316L of my champion. theoriginalsafety2.com/post/74096/threadI had to try different handles to lay down weight to gain balance. And the problem is not the project, but the choosen material. Unefficient !!! I never met a handle I didn't like, long or short, heavy or light, and I felt perfectly comfortable using them all. I'm not into the weight/balance calculations and such, this is just shaving after all. Technique trumps all. I would prefer the original handles designed for the razor, but mixing and matching is cool too, just to play around. "New materials (aluminium, 3D printed resin) are more efficient. Can be lighter, with the same strenght." So what does that mean? More efficient at what? Why does it matter if it's lighter with the same strength?
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bigd
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Post by bigd on Nov 28, 2019 16:42:27 GMT -6
Today's new is tomorrows old. There's going to be a Fuzzy the Third decades from now shaving with a Blackland Razors Sabre complaining the newer stuff is just not traditional enough.
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Post by wchnu on Nov 28, 2019 16:57:01 GMT -6
Today's new is tomorrows old. There's going to be a Fuzzy the Third decades from now shaving with a Blackland Razors Sabre complaining the newer stuff is just not traditional enough. I love when you post! Lmao. Your prolly right though.
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