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Post by wchnu on Jan 7, 2018 18:26:34 GMT -6
Any modern GEM blade razor has to answer the question: "How are you better than a 1912/1914/1924/MMOC/whatever-razor that costs a tenth of the price?" "I'm made from stainless steel" is not the correct answer. "I shave better" is probably a lie. Igor's answer "I'm adjustable" is a very good effort. Your statements are so true. They got it right 100 years ago. I know full well that no matter what comes next. They will not get it better. I am probably being a little hard on them because....well I am a cranky old SE guy. If your going to do something make it better. There ate some beautiful retro style unmentionables being made. But at the price they are not better then the real thing. Seems people just feel cool having one. This razor does not even do that for me.
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corto
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Post by corto on Jan 8, 2018 4:26:55 GMT -6
So many truth bombs here... But I can see a plus with these new shiny, expensive GEM offers as they'll bring new SE users to experience these blades and razors. Maybe some Euro retailer other than Connaught Shaving will start stocking up on GEM blades of different brands and carbon made. That would be great.
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Post by wchnu on Jan 8, 2018 5:01:19 GMT -6
So many truth bombs here... But I can see a plus with these new shiny, expensive GEM offers as they'll bring new SE users to experience these blades and razors. Maybe some Euro retailer other than Connaught Shaving will start stocking up on GEM blades of different brands and carbon made. That would be great. Every group needs someone that looks for the silver lining...I usually throw empty beer bottles at that person. No really if it helps with the SE love it's worth it!
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corto
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Post by corto on Jan 8, 2018 5:26:39 GMT -6
So many truth bombs here... But I can see a plus with these new shiny, expensive GEM offers as they'll bring new SE users to experience these blades and razors. Maybe some Euro retailer other than Connaught Shaving will start stocking up on GEM blades of different brands and carbon made. That would be great. Every group needs someone that looks for the silver lining...I usually throw empty beer bottles at that person. No really if it helps with the SE love it's worth it! Better than the good ol' stoning
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Post by wchnu on Jan 8, 2018 5:30:01 GMT -6
corto. You could have a point!
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PLAla
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Post by PLAla on Jan 10, 2018 11:40:48 GMT -6
It's certainly not an attractive razor. Seems to be some problems with machining and quality control as well. No thanks. I'll keep my G-Bar and Pushbutton and be quite content.
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Post by wchnu on Jan 10, 2018 21:24:30 GMT -6
It's certainly not an attractive razor. Seems to be some problems with machining and quality control as well. No thanks. I'll keep my G-Bar and Pushbutton and be quite content. Those new fangled things are pretty good. Have you tried the older stuff? The 1912..or 1914..or 1924?
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corto
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Post by corto on Jan 11, 2018 5:30:50 GMT -6
It's certainly not an attractive razor. Seems to be some problems with machining and quality control as well. No thanks. I'll keep my G-Bar and Pushbutton and be quite content. Those new fangled things are pretty good. Have you tried the older stuff? The 1912..or 1914..or 1924? Careful Perry, Fuzzy is luring you to the great side of GEM... the oldies.
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PLAla
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Post by PLAla on Jan 11, 2018 6:09:44 GMT -6
It's certainly not an attractive razor. Seems to be some problems with machining and quality control as well. No thanks. I'll keep my G-Bar and Pushbutton and be quite content. Those new fangled things are pretty good. Have you tried the older stuff? The 1912..or 1914..or 1924? Yep, I've tried all three of those thanks to Tom (twhite) and a pass-around he did a while back. I now own a 1912 that isn't getting much love. But I think these new blade options I'm trying now, specifically carbon and PTFE, may help the 1912 be a little better. The 1914 was pretty good but the 1924 was a beast for me. I also have a Featherweight. So my SE arsenal is four GEM razors - 1912, Featherweight, Pushbutton, and G-Bar. I also have a RazoRock Black Hawk.
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Post by wchnu on Jan 11, 2018 7:51:06 GMT -6
Those new fangled things are pretty good. Have you tried the older stuff? The 1912..or 1914..or 1924? Yep, I've tried all three of those thanks to Tom (twhite) and a pass-around he did a while back. I now own a 1912 that isn't getting much love. But I think these new blade options I'm trying now, specifically carbon and PTFE, may help the 1912 be a little better. The 1914 was pretty good but the 1924 was a beast for me. I also have a Featherweight. So my SE arsenal is four GEM razors - 1912, Featherweight, Pushbutton, and G-Bar. I also have a RazoRock Black Hawk. I thought you might have gotten in on that Pass around. My favorite 1912 shines with a CS blade.
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Post by wchnu on Jan 11, 2018 7:52:14 GMT -6
Those new fangled things are pretty good. Have you tried the older stuff? The 1912..or 1914..or 1924? Careful Perry, Fuzzy is luring you to the great side of GEM... the oldies. They could have stopped with the 1902 Kampfe and still out shaved any of the 2 sided things.
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pj3r
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Post by pj3r on Jan 12, 2018 5:40:46 GMT -6
I must say that I expected something different.
But I must admit that I wait what will The Colonial Razors do. Somewhere on the end of 2016. they told that they thinking about GEM type razor and that they think about lather catcher...
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Post by GarnerPW on Jan 12, 2018 6:08:07 GMT -6
I must say that I expected something different. But I must admit that I wait what will The Colonial Razors do. Somewhere on the end of 2016. they told that they thinking about GEM type razor and that they think about lather catcher... I would like to see that. If there GEM razor is any thing like the General it will be GREAT.
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pj3r
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Post by pj3r on Jan 12, 2018 6:48:33 GMT -6
I must say that I expected something different. But I must admit that I wait what will The Colonial Razors do. Somewhere on the end of 2016. they told that they thinking about GEM type razor and that they think about lather catcher... I would like to see that. If there GEM razor is any thing like the General it will be GREAT. I know!
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jamie
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Post by jamie on Jan 12, 2018 8:47:27 GMT -6
Well I dont find it Ugly :-)
I have had great luck with PAA razors, there Slants are tributes to vintage German razors and work so nice and sure beat paying 200 bucks for the orginals. The Prismatic is also tribute to French Razor. I have another modern GEM - the Turkish Rocnel and that is a bad ass razor - uber aggressive and works great.
So for under 40 bucks I had to get the starling and I commend PAA for trying there best to create a SE razor - You cant fault them for being innovative. SO it comes with 2 plates - blue is mild and gold is aggressive. First shave i did 2 passes with the blue plate and it barely cut whiskers Just way too mild - for final pass I switched to the gold plate it was okay and cut but more mild than a Contour II... Now the carbon blade is fore sure more mild and smoother than a PTFE and that is i why i always use them on old/agressive Gems.. I am using the aggressive plate tonight with PTFE and I think it will be much better - the blue plate will never be used again - just not aggressive enough..
But being a SE lover and Gem lover - I WELCOME NEW PRODUCTS - you can't fault the effort!!
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