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Post by PJGH on Jun 12, 2014 15:15:23 GMT -6
... again! Damn it!
Being a Wilkinson Sword fan and a fencer, I really fancy a Wilkinson Sword branded fencing sabre from back in the day when they sponsored British Fencing.
These items come up for auction every now and again and I've bid on two now with a serious effort to win. Pipped again! Damn it!
I don't think it would be usable in the sport today, given the new regulations ... although sabre fencing has some of the slackest in the sport. Still, it would be nice for one to sit in my sword rack.
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Post by exapno on Jun 12, 2014 16:09:06 GMT -6
Do they fetch a high price Paul?
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Post by drumzalot on Jun 12, 2014 18:40:48 GMT -6
Long ago (don't ask me how long) I used to take Kenjustu lessons. I still have a few cheap bokkens that I bought. This was such a long time ago (yes I'm old) and don't remember anything anymore. Oh Paul, I am the one who took your Wilkinson ha, ha, ha! exapno, I've seen a few Wilkinsons go for around $24 - $60 with everything (U.S. eBay).
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Post by PJGH on Jun 13, 2014 1:33:02 GMT -6
Anywhere between about £50 and £200. New fencing sabres are around £50 for comparison - these are from the '70s and '80s, usually. Standards have moved on in terms of the quality of the steel and what stamps must be on the blade for use in modern fencing. I've yet to see one, but I doubt they carry the correct standard stamps. So, Joe ... you go it, eh? You got it, did you? I'll duel you for it! Consider this a virtual glove across the face. Dawn? First blood with epees I love this opening scene in 'The Duellists':
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Post by drumzalot on Jun 13, 2014 7:49:59 GMT -6
All razors are mine! I can't believe I have been slapped and challenged why Paul you must be tired of living! Why do I sense that you will end up like the Black Knight? Now remember it's just a flesh wound.
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Post by coolbus18 on Jun 13, 2014 10:31:42 GMT -6
Nah, Sabers. Much more fun or Wakazishj and Tanto perhaps?
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Post by PJGH on Jun 13, 2014 11:19:21 GMT -6
Nah, Japanese swords are too slow and require close combat or charging - prime meat for a duellist. Your General Patton knew this as he prepared soldiers for war in the far east by training with western duelling swords. Distance is the critical obsession of western swordplay - poor distance and you're dead. So when the Kendo guy is holding his sword up above his head ready to smash your skull, just pull a timed coup-d'arrette and his sword will still be over his head, but he'll be bleeding ... 0:57 for example Bruce Lee was so impressed with the coup-d'arrette (the "stop hit", which is a hit in and out within the tempo of an opponent's attack) he named his whole martial art after it: the way of the arresting fist. Watch his feet - that's fencing footwork. He happens to "fence" with his feet, too. Anyway, here's a real (illegal) duel: "Honour is satisfied ..." ... "the French do this so well" ... love the Pathé news-speak
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Post by drumzalot on Jun 13, 2014 18:03:16 GMT -6
Kendo = no good, Kenjutsu or Iaido is the true combat form. Kendo is a watered down sport. Kenjutsu still has a few schools left that vary, at one point in history there were a horde of different schools (ryu). Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do, no matter his footwork, would never last against a Judoka, catch as can wrestler, nor a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu practitioner. We really can't know who wins here ... I don't like to play the who beats who in anything. A real test of styles would require a lot of duels with a slew of opponents fighting for life and death. I don't think anyone is going to do that. Unless it requires toy lightsabers then I am game. "The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions."- Miyamoto Musashi Now no one can deny that real swordsmanship means this:
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Post by ShadowsDad on Jun 14, 2014 0:27:27 GMT -6
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