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Post by HoosierTrooper on Jul 29, 2012 9:01:52 GMT -6
Here's a Schick injector I have that is a bit of an oddity, and I'd like one of the injector gurus see if my theory is possible. It's an E type made before 1946 because it just says Schick Injector on the spring, not Eversharp-Schick which started with the G types, and it only has one patent number. There are flaps on the side of the spring, but it has the molded plastic handle with seams that the G types have and not the solid, seamless Bakelite handle that the E types had. Since it seems to be a mix of E and G traits my guess is that this razor was possibly one of the last E's made as they were transitioning to the molded plastic handles for the G types, but still had some of the E frames laying around so they used them up. Does that sound reasonable?
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Post by sargon on Jul 29, 2012 15:43:18 GMT -6
sounds reasonable, but who knows? Certainly not me.
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Post by lloyd on Jul 30, 2012 12:33:30 GMT -6
I think you are probably right....and since the head is an 'E'...then it's an 'E' in my book....but a 'hy-bred e'...... I dig it.....It looks great Tom...hows it shave?
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Post by HoosierTrooper on Jul 30, 2012 15:29:52 GMT -6
Since no one has blown any holes through my theory then I'm going with the hybrid idea. Maybe I'll list it on the bay as a super rare E/G hybrid and make a mint!
And Lloyd, it shaves just like all of the other E and G types, which is fantastic.
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Post by RocketMan on Jul 30, 2012 17:42:28 GMT -6
The hybrid idea - mating new handles to old head stock - certainly seems reasonable.
All I can truly say though is - dunno.
Good catch though - I probably would have had that one in the drawer and may never have noticed.
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Post by Possum on Jul 31, 2012 11:27:53 GMT -6
Tom,
The answer to your question will probably go truly unanswered. At least you know it is a Schick and the approximate time frame for mfg. As to why the mix and match head, handle, pat #, who knows.
I like your calling it a hy-bred Schick. That suits it very well.
Found the same kind of situation with my cast iron skillets. Many skillets made by folks like Griswold Mfg Co and Wagner Mfg Co go unmarked or with mismatched lids etc. Don't know why that happened other than like your razor it could have been toward the end of a run of certain style skillets or dutch ovens.
Hope you razor shaves well and does so for many years to come.
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Post by wchnu on Jul 31, 2012 19:05:36 GMT -6
Would not suprise me for that to be the correct answer. Use up what we have attitude. Like RocketDood said i probably would have never noted it.
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Post by birdlives on Mar 20, 2013 16:20:40 GMT -6
Cool Tom....This is a conundrum...One patent number...definite 'E' Seam in handle...definite 'G'
I think its safe to say your theory is correct....and it answers the age old question of what if an E type and a G type had a love child....lol
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Post by mftoms59 on Apr 21, 2013 3:08:47 GMT -6
I've seen one or two like that and they were both made in Canada, my conclusion, based on logic without concrete evidence, agreed with yours.
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Post by HoosierTrooper on Apr 21, 2013 9:03:23 GMT -6
The Canada plant seems to have put out a couple oddities, but this one definitely was made in the U.S.
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Post by mjclark on Nov 23, 2013 16:17:32 GMT -6
I have a Canadian which may question the "using up old stock theory". It clearly has an E type head with the flaps, but is not designed to open. There is a tang on the top plate which fits into a slot in the middle of the spring plate, making it immovable, so maybe even the theory that the flaps are grips to open the spring is in question (!). The handle is seamed plastic, so would be designated a G, but the original box shows that the razor is from the Magazine Repeating Razor Co (and the razor head circle says Schick)so that it clearly predates the Eversharp brand. The accepted typology says that the G-type seamed plastic handles were created c.1945 with Eversharp, but here is a seamed plastic handle before Eversharp was introduced. It's very interesting to see a US Schick which is so similar and also does not fit into the typology. Clearly there is plenty of room for more research here
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Post by mjclark on Nov 23, 2013 16:18:44 GMT -6
I have a Canadian which may question the "using up old stock theory". It clearly has an E type head with the flaps, but is not designed to open. There is a tang on the top plate which fits into a slot in the middle of the spring plate, making it immovable, so maybe even the theory that the flaps are grips to open the spring is in question (!). The handle is seamed plastic, so would be designated a G, but the original box shows that the razor is from the Magazine Repeating Razor Co (and the razor head circle says Schick)so that it clearly predates the Eversharp brand. The accepted typology says that the G-type seamed plastic handles were created c.1945 with Eversharp, but here is a seamed plastic handle before Eversharp was introduced. It's very interesting to see a US Schick which is so similar and also does not fit into the typology. Clearly there is plenty of room for more research here.
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Post by norfolkdick on Feb 15, 2014 11:04:02 GMT -6
Greetings This is an old thread but it seemed like the best place to make this posting:- I have always been extremely confused by Canadian Schick injectors that do not seem to fit in either the E or the G category; having just took delivery of this rather nice example I am no wiser! This razor has the handle with the mould seam which we normally associate with G models It has the word Eversharp on it which we always associate with G models It has the flaps/tabs/sides (call them what you will) on the spring a feature we associate with E's When I look at the blade gap and compare it with my others G's and my one E it is bigger than the G's and seems to match the E, I have yet to shave with it. It has the 1937 Canadian patent stamped on it as all Canadian Schicks seem to have. The case (which may not be original) but I suspect is; has moulded on the base Made in the USA I take it this refers to the case only? The Injector blade cartridge has Eversharp Schick on it and made in the USA. I suspect there was is a lot of mixing and matching going on as Tom suggested not only in the USA Schick plant but also between the USA and Canadian factories like I am sure there was between the USA and UK GEM and Ever Ready plants. What we end up with is a lot of confusion, at least for my limited mental horsepower! Searching on this forum I see Sleddog has a Nickel Canadian Schick with a blue handle as in the Schick 66 but it also has tabs on the side of the spring. Regards Dick.
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Post by PJGH on Feb 15, 2014 12:10:40 GMT -6
Car manufacturers make a big deal of using up old stock by releasing "special edition" models. Your theory seems entirely reasonable, although might it just be a handle swap? Say, the bakelite cracked and fell off, some previous owner grafting a spare handle on?
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Post by sleddog on Feb 21, 2014 20:50:42 GMT -6
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