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Post by augustwest on Sept 7, 2014 21:32:38 GMT -6
Everyone has their own ideas about "aggressiveness" in terms of the Micromatics. I own all three and would rate them this way.
1. MMOC, most agressive 2. MMCP, medium aggressive, closest to the 1912 3. "Bullet Tip", mildest of the three but also my favorite, not so much for how it shaves, they all do a first class job, but for the way it looks.
A word or two about the "Damaskeene" version (closed comb).
I own one and I also own the standard 1912 model. I see absolutely no shaving difference between the two shave-wise. So anyone hoping to find some sort of shaving nirvana with the "Damaskeene" version save your money. Unless you are a collector and just want one for your comprehensive collection. I believe the "Damaskeene" version has just been hyped up by those who have them, since they are harder to find. Which in turn gives those owning them "bragging rights", which is all important in any hobby, wet shaving included. . . . All the SE's will give you a better, more comfortable shave than their DE counter part, just spend time to get to know each model. . . . "The shave quality of a straight razor, with the convenience of a safety razor. YMMV
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Post by birdlives on Sept 9, 2014 1:44:38 GMT -6
Everyone has their own ideas about "aggressiveness" in terms of the Micromatics. I own all three and would rate them this way. 1. MMOC, most agressive 2. MMCP, medium aggressive, closest to the 1912 3. "Bullet Tip", mildest of the three but also my favorite, not so much for how it shaves, they all do a first class job, but for the way it looks. A word or two about the "Damaskeene" version (closed comb). I own one and I also own the standard 1912 model. I see absolutely no shaving difference between the two shave-wise. So anyone hoping to find some sort of shaving nirvana with the "Damaskeene" version save your money. Unless you are a collector and just want one for your comprehensive collection. I believe the "Damaskeene" version has just been hyped up by those who have them, since they are harder to find. Which in turn gives those owning them "bragging rights", which is all important in any hobby, wet shaving included. . . . All the SE's will give you a better, more comfortable shave than their DE counter part, just spend time to get to know each model. . . . "The shave quality of a straight razor, with the convenience of a safety razor. YMMV Hmmm....I don't know...I do see similarities of course but all my 1912s shave a little different and my Damaskeene is so much milder...it's in a class by itself, and if you dig mild then you'd love it. If aggressive is your cup of tea then my Dammy wouldn't be your favorite.... My ER and Star 1912's are both noticeably more aggressive and both are very similar to each other and to my Clog-pruf as far as results go...my ER 1924 is more aggressive than all three of them and more aggressive than my OCMM by a smidge and also smoother although my OCMM is very close....and my GEM Brooklyn is more aggressive and rougher all of them....But it also is very effective, not bad at all. But as Alan said when he gave it to me, " You'll have to keep Spike here on a short leash, he'll bite !"....he was right...ha,ha...
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Post by prometeo on Sept 26, 2014 18:31:04 GMT -6
Gracias por esta revisión. Uno de mis favoritos es el afeitadoras Micromatic. Its shape is very futuristic as a novel by Frank Herbert .
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Post by Roderick on Dec 2, 2014 15:35:53 GMT -6
Everyone has their own ideas about "aggressiveness" in terms of the Micromatics. I own all three and would rate them this way. 1. MMOC, most agressive 2. MMCP, medium aggressive, closest to the 1912 3. "Bullet Tip", mildest of the three but also my favorite, not so much for how it shaves, they all do a first class job, but for the way it looks. A word or two about the "Damaskeene" version (closed comb). I own one and I also own the standard 1912 model. I see absolutely no shaving difference between the two shave-wise. So anyone hoping to find some sort of shaving nirvana with the "Damaskeene" version save your money. Unless you are a collector and just want one for your comprehensive collection. I believe the "Damaskeene" version has just been hyped up by those who have them, since they are harder to find. Which in turn gives those owning them "bragging rights", which is all important in any hobby, wet shaving included. . . . All the SE's will give you a better, more comfortable shave than their DE counter part, just spend time to get to know each model. . . . "The shave quality of a straight razor, with the convenience of a safety razor. YMMV I totally agree with you Augie. I find no difference between the Damaskene and my 1912's. I will have an opinion on the MMOC and the MMCP tomorrow when I put the CP through it's paces. Very good discussion by all.
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Post by wchnu on Dec 3, 2014 20:38:09 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see what you think.
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snuff
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Post by snuff on Feb 18, 2015 12:57:50 GMT -6
I found there is definitely a difference between de Micromatic OC with square teeth and the one with pointed teeth as far as shaving goes. The square one shaves very nice but the pointed one is really aggressive!
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Post by PJGH on Feb 18, 2015 13:13:44 GMT -6
Square teeth? Pointed teeth? Oh, now you've got me started ... Woo! The game is afoot!
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Post by snuff on Feb 19, 2015 3:37:20 GMT -6
Have I written something I shouldn't? Or am I missing something here?
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Post by PJGH on Feb 19, 2015 5:30:15 GMT -6
I read it as if you were saying there were two variants of the MMOC. Is that right? I went hunting and looked at a few dozen, only to find squared teeth. Do you have a picture of the difference?
There is a difference between the MMOCs with nubs on the blade plate and ones without; I can't remember which is more aggressive out of those two.
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Post by snuff on Feb 19, 2015 8:07:32 GMT -6
I went hunting and looked at a few dozen, only to find squared teeth. Do you have a picture of the difference? I'm not saying there are two different ones but this one has other teeth and shaves differently.
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norfolkdick
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Post by norfolkdick on Feb 19, 2015 11:02:11 GMT -6
I went hunting and looked at a few dozen, only to find squared teeth. Do you have a picture of the difference? I'm not saying there are two different ones but this one has other teeth and shaves differently. Greetings I am really intrigued by the OCMM with the pointed teeth, I have never noticed one like that before but having said that I have never looked for it. Could it be possible that the razor in the picture has been modified? ie the teeth tapered with a small file, I think I can see verdigris on the sides of the teeth which tends to be indicative of raw brass corroding, of course fair wear and tear could also be the cause of the corrosion. If they have at some time in the past been modified it begs the question as to why? If the teeth have not been actually shortened which they appear not to have been it should not (in theory) alter the aggression of the shave but it obviously has....fascinating. Here are my two OCMM's. I only have two and by chance one has the dots stamped on the blade tray of the frame and the other has not but both have square teeth. Regards Dick.
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Post by drumzalot on Feb 19, 2015 12:42:49 GMT -6
I found there is definitely a difference between de Micromatic OC with square teeth and the one with pointed teeth as far as shaving goes. The square one shaves very nice but the pointed one is really aggressive! I have never seen one with pointed teeth. The only significant difference I have seen, between MMOC models, are the raised "bumps" on the base plate.
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Post by drumzalot on Feb 19, 2015 12:44:24 GMT -6
I read it as if you were saying there were two variants of the MMOC. Is that right? I went hunting and looked at a few dozen, only to find squared teeth. Do you have a picture of the difference? There is a difference between the MMOCs with nubs on the blade plate and ones without; I can't remember which is more aggressive out of those two. My understanding is that the version without the raised bumps is more aggressive. If memory serves me correct, I believe the flat base plate MMOC is an early model.
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Post by PJGH on Feb 19, 2015 12:50:35 GMT -6
Wow! That one you showed us, Snuff, looks like a real vampire! Reminds me of the headless horseman in Tim Burton's 'Sleepy Hollow'. Does it have the nubs on the baseplate, like drumzalot showed us?
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Post by drumzalot on Feb 19, 2015 12:54:36 GMT -6
Greetings I am really intrigued by the OCMM with the pointed teeth, I have never noticed one like that before but having said that I have never looked for it. Could it be possible that the razor in the picture has been modified? ie the teeth tapered with a small file, I think I can see verdigris on the sides of the teeth which tends to be indicative of raw brass corroding, of course fair wear and tear could also be the cause of the corrosion. If they have at some time in the past been modified it begs the question as to why? If the teeth have not been actually shortened which they appear not to have been it should not (in theory) alter the aggression of the shave but it obviously has....fascinating. Here are my two OCMM's. I only have two and by chance one has the dots stamped on the blade tray of the frame and the other has not but both have square teeth. Regards Dick. Just as a quick guess, I think that particular MMOC was modified. If there had been a model with pointed teeth released, even if only a few, we would have known about this. I have seen Gem Junior Bar lather catchers modified with open comb guards. I also can see the irregularities on the sides of the teeth.
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