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Post by IschiaPP on Nov 29, 2019 9:25:53 GMT -6
Does using newer stuff give better shaves? No, of course. Newer stuff can give easier performances. Better stuff (as the AC and Injector blade) can give better shaves. But this depends mainly on technical knowledge. As a newer car is (often) better than an old one. If you like the model, It's just a point of view. But the techical progress is a matter of facts. I've tried some of the new jewel razors. Here you can see the Blackland Vector in SOTD. ( link) Most of the times I've sold them, or not purchased when loaned. Because they have no better q/p ratio. I look for good instruments ... not just shining or well hyped. I use Physics and Chemistry (as pharmacist) to resolve my skin disease. What I know is what I learned from experience. But I chose which experiences to do after studying the technical details. Not to be a teacher, but to share and be helpful. First to myself, and then to the other communities I belong to.
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Post by wchnu on Nov 29, 2019 10:28:13 GMT -6
Does using newer stuff give better shaves? I wouldn't know Fuzzy, I'm not a physicist, but I'll go out on a limb and guess not. Nobody told my razors that they are inefficient because their handles are too short, or their head and blades are too narrow, or the blade is moving around in the razor because the head isn't clamping down on the blade hard enough, or they are made of the wrong materials to provide some perfect head/handle balance. I guess I should be having all kinds or problems shaving and possibly need to spend hundreds of dollars on new fangled scientifically correct thingies. I personally won't but I firmly believe that the power of the free market provides as many choices as possible for Individuals as God intended and I reject any one size fits all schemes. Well written.Thanks
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Post by twhite on Nov 29, 2019 16:09:40 GMT -6
I don’t mind the new stuff. After all if we do not try to improve things we will never Progress. That being said, I find the majority of the newer razors don’t float my boat. As Andreas states, artists blades are too wide for my liking.
Let’s face it everyone has their own likes. So new razors are great for those looking to have the latest and greatest. I love the old stuff far more than the new. I am not a fan of the heavy razors. I like light so I can feel the blade not a heavy cap on my face.
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mrconklin
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Post by mrconklin on Nov 29, 2019 16:28:56 GMT -6
I have new and old shavers. The newer ones, in most cases are better made and perhaps nicer, but then the sell for more than the classic razors did if you convert today's to yesterdays dollars. With my SE razors I'd say in most cases the vintage or as good as or better than the new when it comes to the shave. With my unmentionables, it's the other way around.
The TNNSER is my best shaving SE, then I'd say the Gem Junior and Supply Injector are a tie, next is the Focus Dynamic OneBlade and then comes the Lady Eversharp Injector and then the RazoRock V2.
I would like to try a Blackland Sabre and a Blackland Vector some day just to know how they stack up and either kill or confirm my lust.
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Post by godek on Nov 29, 2019 16:39:53 GMT -6
Tough question. I have no definitive answer for me. Most of my razors are vintage. There are just so many Injector and GEM razors that can be obtained for really small sums. Variety spices things up for me. Also got a Hawk V2 to try out AC blades in a safety razor and a Supply Provision because I can. Last addition were a bunch of TNNSER. I really like the idea of using a razor I can replace or print spare parts for myself. I have an Occham's OREN on order, but most other modern and in many cases expensive new offerings do not awaken any desire to get them.
Also I'm not chasing the uber aggressive next razor. So in the future I may only get another AC or Injector razor as DE has stagnated for quite some time, there are only even more aggressive and/ or more expensive offerings made from unnecessary expensive materials.
br godek
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TobyC
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Post by TobyC on Nov 29, 2019 17:52:33 GMT -6
Does using newer stuff give better shaves? No. Some may have convinced themselves otherwise, but the correct answer is no.
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Post by TobyC on Nov 29, 2019 18:25:33 GMT -6
IschiaPPI have no doubt that you believe the things you say, and if it works for you, so be it. But don't come in here an tell us that your way is the right way and we are all wrong. I've been shaving successfully for decades, and I've seen plenty of know-it-all types trying to convert everyone to their unconventional methodology. But just like we are now trending back to traditional wet shaving after the disastrous venture into expensive plastic throwaways, we always go back to the stuff that actually works. In this case it's quality brass razors with the factory handles and blades that have proven themselves to generations. You want to fiddle with oddball stuff and spew math theory, keep it to yourself.
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mrconklin
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Post by mrconklin on Nov 29, 2019 22:07:33 GMT -6
Today's new is tomorrows old. There's going to be a Fuzzy the Third decades from now shaving with a Blackland Razors Sabre complaining the newer stuff is just not traditional enough. I love when you post! Lmao. Your prolly right though. LOL Back in my day we used hover boards to get from A to B, we didn't need no fancy teleportin'! Now a general post to all and none in particular There are getting to be some heated opinions here and I say opinion because that is all they are, by any of us. There is no single party line of right and wrong with razors that is being violated. I can defend my likes or dislikes of any razors I've used. Those are things I have determined about my razors and my use of them. If your experiences differ sharply from mine, it doesn't mean I'm a genius and you are a dumb@ss or vice versa, it means we've used the same equipment and arrived at different conclusions. All that proves is we have different tastes. One of the very reasons we discuss this stuff is to share opinions. I've explored opinions on razors and techniques some members here have offered up. In some cases I've adopted their methods or beliefs and in some I've not. In each case it was vetted by "does that agree with my OWN experience". I've only shaved for 35 years, I know some of you have shaved longer. I'm still learning and I'm sure you are too.
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Post by Flintstone on Nov 29, 2019 22:12:59 GMT -6
IschiaPP I have no doubt that you believe the things you say, and if it works for you, so be it. But don't come in here an tell us that your way is the right way and we are all wrong. I've been shaving successfully for decades, and I've seen plenty of know-it-all types trying to convert everyone to their unconventional methodology. But just like we are now trending back to traditional wet shaving after the disastrous venture into expensive plastic throwaways, we always go back to the stuff that actually works. In this case it's quality brass razors with the factory handles and blades that have proven themselves to generations. You want to fiddle with oddball stuff and spew math theory, keep it to yourself. Wow, you're quite the "shrinking violet" aren't you? Let's clarify something, IschiaPP is more than free to use whatever razor he'd like (as you correctly pointed out), AND as long as it's an SE razor, he's not only free to post his experiences and personal opinions about his shaves, but he's also encouraged to do so. A question was asked, he answered, you answered -- I'm pretty sure I (and most people who can read) got your perspective....so time to move on.
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Post by IschiaPP on Nov 30, 2019 2:53:04 GMT -6
IschiaPP ... don't come in here an tell us that your way is the right way and we are all wrong. Never done. I just say that to have actual progress, we have to take the good from the past and update with new knowledge. I've some skin issues, so shaving three decades ago was a problem. Trying out of the box solutions, studying online, reading other people experiences and sharing mines, now I enjoy every morning shave. And I can efficiently use every kind of razor, not just one SE model. As the Einstein's quote above, It's better to be open minded. IschiaPP is ... not only free to post his experiences and personal opinions about his shaves, but he's also encouraged to do so. I love to experiment. In the domestic forum ilRasoio I've 18K+ posts about all kind of razor and shaving accessories. For me It's quite normal to share my experiences. Mostly, people enjoy it and find it useful. Hope to be the same in this community.
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Post by carlfrommo on Nov 30, 2019 19:15:44 GMT -6
OK, time for my bland opinion. I like the new stuff because it may bring new people into the single edge shave experience, and get them away from those over-priced department store unmentionables that are terrible for the skin. If people like the $95 supply razor, then I am happy for them.
For myself, I really like the vintage razors and currently have no interest in the new models. But that may change someday. (Ship all your modern SE, unwanted razors to me and change my mind hehehe)
Good thread, Carl
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Post by wchnu on Nov 30, 2019 19:50:47 GMT -6
IschiaPP ... don't come in here an tell us that your way is the right way and we are all wrong. Never done. I just say that to have actual progress, we have to take the good from the past and update with new knowledge. I've some skin issues, so shaving three decades ago was a problem. Trying out of the box solutions, studying online, reading other people experiences and sharing mines, now I enjoy every morning shave. And I can efficiently use every kind of razor, not just one SE model. As the Einstein's quote above, It's better to be open minded. IschiaPP is ... not only free to post his experiences and personal opinions about his shaves, but he's also encouraged to do so. I love to experiment. In the domestic forum ilRasoio I've 18K+ posts about all kind of razor and shaving accessories. For me It's quite normal to share my experiences. Mostly, people enjoy it and find it useful. Hope to be the same in this community. You are welcome here at all times!!
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ShadowsDad
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Post by ShadowsDad on Dec 1, 2019 9:15:44 GMT -6
Absolutely, dittos what Fuzzy wrote. This forum thrives on exchanging ideas and thoughts.
Not everyone agrees with me or I them, but they're free to give their thoughts, the same as am I.
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Post by rayr on Dec 1, 2019 9:41:47 GMT -6
Absolutely, dittos what Fuzzy wrote. This forum thrives on exchanging ideas and thoughts. Not everyone agrees with me or I them, but they're free to give their thoughts, the same as am I. Well, I don't know about you but I need a “safe space” from all this free speech!
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TobyC
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Post by TobyC on Dec 1, 2019 13:07:06 GMT -6
Absolutely, dittos what Fuzzy wrote. This forum thrives on exchanging ideas and thoughts. Not everyone agrees with me or I them, but they're free to give their thoughts, the same as am I. Well, I don't know about you but I need a “safe space” from all this free speech! Bah, suck it up and move on. It's a new day.
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